Doc's Place

© 2008, Michel Grover. All rights reserved.
Chapter 20 | Part 1
Thursday, October 18, 1984

Park the Buick in Doc's garage early because my first meeting is at nine. I've been away from work for one day shy of two weeks. In case I need to, I arrive early for work.

So far, the day sucks. Maybe it's from talking to the therapist yesterday but for some reason, my shoulder hurts like hell today. Sara and I jogged a little and stretched this morning. The shoulder didn't begin bothering me until after my shower.

On my way to the door that leads to the skywalk across the Row, I pass a tall, skinny guy in a white shirt and tie. He is trying and failing to remove the grill on a big `66 Dodge van.

"What's the problem?" I ask.

"Huh? Oh, sorry. I didn't notice you walking up."

Stand there looking at him, waiting.

He waves his hand at the Dodge van, and says, "Oh this? Got a short somewhere. My headlights are so dim I can't see to drive in the dark. Pretty soon, I won't be able to drive to or from work."

From where I'm standing I can see that the screw holding the ground wire is loose. "Give me the Phillips screwdriver." When he hands it over, I tell him, "Go turn on the headlights."

"You think you can fix it by. . . ."

"I'll wait `til you get back."

He walks around and pulls the switch. The headlights are so dim they produce only a yellowish-brown light that does not illuminate at all. He walks back around and stands with his hands on his hips, watching.

"See this wire connected to this screw? That's the ground connection." Tighten the screw and the headlights shine brightly, illuminating the garage.

"Wow! How did you know that?"

Hand him the screwdriver. "Tonight, take it out and clean the rust off the screw, the connector and around the screw hole. Put it back together and it'll be fine. Then you can replace your grill."

Begin to walk away but he calls out, "Wait! What's your name?"

Pausing, I look at him. "Jill Price."

"Tyrone Presnell," he says, holding out his hand.

Take his hand and give it a squeeze, which lights up the pain in my shoulder blade. Releasing his hand, I turn and walk toward the door.

"Thank you, Jill," he calls.

Wave with my left and continue walking. Inside, I take the elevator up. The door to the executive hallway is locked. See a light in Personnel so I rap on the window with a knuckle.

George comes out of his office and waves, hurrying to let me in. "Welcome back, Jill. How are you feeling?"

"Ask me in a month. When do Louise and Peter get in this morning, George?"

"They're in Louise' office, Jill. They arrived at eight."

"How about Liz and her team?"

"Setting up the video equipment in the executive conference room."

"Thanks George, see you later." Walk to my office and flip on the light. The bluelines for the first issue of Doc's Talks are on my desk. Two boxes of my new business cards and a stack of message forms too. Stuff the messages into the trash, pull out a few business cards—Jill Price, Communications Manager—and stuff them in my jacket pocket, pick up the bluelines and walk up the hall to the conference room. Sure enough, Liz and the kids are in there, checking the sound pickup on the microphones. "Hey," I say.

A chorus of greetings as they approach for hugs.

Hold up my left hand. "Touch me and I'll knock you on your ass. You ready?"

"Nice to see you too. Yeah, we're ready," says Liz.

"We're putting Morty and his team at this end and all of us observers at that end. We each have separate components we're observing for the de-briefing after the meeting."

"Are you going to participate?" asks Samantha.

"Hell no. I'd like a copy of the script though."

"Right here," says Liz, sliding the copy across the table.

"Thank you." Sit down and begin scanning it.

Thomas walks around the table and looms over me. "Uh, Jill?"

Look up at him.

"How are you doing?" he asks with a big smile.

"Get back to work," I tell him, "or get the hell out of here."

He looks at me, appearing hurt and confused, then turns and walks over to stand near Samantha.

See Liz smirking but I ignore her. Continuing to scan, I see that Liz and her two assistants did a good job of organizing the script from my outline. When I look up a short time later, I catch Liz's eye and nod.

She smiles, obviously pleased. When Louise and Peter walk in, Liz greets them. She directs them to chairs on either side of me. Peter and I exchange greetings.

Louise sits on my left and touches my arm in greeting. "Welcome back, Jill. How are you feeling?"

"Fine. It's good to see you, Louise. Any questions before Morty and his people get here?"

"Does anyone else need to be here?"

"The opposite, Louise."

"Okay. Peter and I discussed it but he said you would decide."

"Nothing to decide," I tell her. In my peripheral vision, I see Peter nod slightly. "All the execs and managers will face this team eventually," I add.

The door opens and in walks Morty, Mario Corto and three other men who manage slot operations on all shifts. They chatter about a group of patrons. Kelly follows a few seconds later. Liz has already briefed them on ignoring us as observers. They take seats as Morty keeps the banter going.

Just then, in walks Kerry and a distinguished-looking, bearded man'probably Phil Garrett, President of Doc's Place. They smile and look for seats.

Stand and say, "Hello Kerry. This meeting is to train my team. You do not need to attend."

"Well hello, Jill. It's nice to see you too. How are you feeling?" asks Kerry, pulling a chair back from the table. The man I assume is Phil does likewise.

"Kerry, you'll see this team in action soon enough," I tell him. "I'd appreciate it if you two guys would leave."

He stands beside the chair and glances at Peter, who is busy reading the script. Looking at me once more, Kerry says, "You know as well as I do that Phil can attend any meeting he wants and you also know Morty works for me."

"Phil, I'm glad to meet you. This team will evaluate your ability to conduct a meeting. I do not want you to know what they do until then. I'd like you and Kerry to leave." Look at them, and add, "Please."

Phil looks at Peter, and asks, "Peter?"

Peter looks up as if he's just noticed Phil for the first time. "Hello, Phil. Didn't Louise discuss this with you? She told me she did."

"Yes, but. . . ."

"There you go," says Peter with a smile. "I'll see you at lunch, Phil."

Phil glances at me.

"Thank you, gentlemen," I say as I watch them leave. Slowly, I sit down. Now my leg is beginning to throb too. Nod at Morty.

After the meeting, Morty dismisses Kelly and his staff. Liz and the kids run through the script and the videotape with him, taking the time to explain everything thoroughly. Morty seems pleased with himself and with the project. He tells us it is worthwhile.

Once Morty leaves, I compliment Liz and her assistants. We analyze the progress of the evaluation, discussing each detail. After that, I ask them to review. By the time we finish, they tell me they understand exactly what to do in preparation for the dress rehearsal with Dick Scope and his staff meeting next week. They gather up the video equipment and leave for Liz's office to talk some more. When I turn my attention to Peter and Louise, my shoulder is a raging inferno and my leg aches as if someone broke off a drill bit in there.

Louise looks down at the buttons on her suit, probably waiting for Peter to speak.

"I'm impressed," says Peter. "The way Liz and her team walked Morty through that videotape was as simple and clear as any evaluation and instruction I've ever seen. This program will provide the executives and managers at Doc's Place with a significant competitive edge. Please accept my compliments to you, Liz and her team, Jill."

Louise jumps in with her two cents. "I agree with Peter, Jill. You've done one hell of a job, especially considering what you've been through during the past two weeks."

"Thank you both on behalf of Liz and her team who did most of the work. It went as well as we had expected. Do we have authorization to proceed on schedule?"

Peter nods. "Absolutely. I assume you'll send out an announcement to the executives and managers soon?"

"Next week," I tell him.

"Then Louise, Phil and I will give you brief, supporting statements to include with the announcement. I want everyone to know that Phil and I weigh in one hundred percent behind this program."

"That will be helpful, Peter. Thank you." For a moment, I look at them because I can't remember what happens next.

Louise prompts me with, "Were you going to show us how your first issue of the magazine is progressing, Jill?"

"Right, here you go." Pick up the blueline showing the first issue's layout and set it on the table in front of Louise. That hurts enough that I don't want to move again so I stand and walk to the window to look outside. Feel my organism on the verge of panic, knowing I can't make it through a full day of work. Take deep, even breaths and focus on two fat women across the Row. One is pushing a baby stroller as they walk away, carrying on an animated conversation. They turn north on Virginia Street.

The hawk's sharply focused view of a flat, valley floor moving below. See tiny movements here and there in the grass or beneath sagebrush.

"Well, I must say," says Peter a few minutes later, "I never thought that reading about restoring nickelodeons would make me proud to be an American, proud to be associated with Doc's Place and smart enough to understand how historical these pieces are, all at the same time. I've read the opening article twice, and I'm still not sure how you pulled it off, Jill. The cover photo of Sam using the tuning fork is fascinating—all those parts. People will study this photo—all the photos—repeatedly. The way you have woven in the Ferro support is just right. Oh, the stockholders and collectors out there will love this."

Louise jumps in with, "And that back cover shot with the little girl and boy staring at the giant nickelodeon as they listen. See their faces? As if they're having a religious experience. I have tears looking at it."

"Did you see the caption on the inside back cover, Louise?" Peter asks. "Look. Their folks brought them here from Pennsylvania on the way back from visiting their grandparents in San Francisco, just so they could bring their kids to Doc's Place to put a nickel in the nickelodeon and hear it play."

"The detail in these photos is astounding. I can't wait to see the real thing," says Louise. "We'd better print plenty of extras of this issue. People are going to clamor for copies."

Peter says to Louise, "Would you give Jill and me a moment, Louise? I'll stop by your office in a few minutes. Thank you." Peter is standing next to me now. "Jill, the message you have conveyed in this issue is at once subtle and obvious. Ferro has invested in Doc's Place as a site of Americana. Ferro intends to keep it going forever. If you do no other thing, you have delivered on your promise. Thank you."

The hawk found a quivering rabbit hiding beside a clump of grass. I'd rather stay with the hawk, but I return to pain, which is diminished, but still gnawing and grinding. "Thank you Peter," I say softly. "This will only whet their appetites for more and better."

He looks at me for a moment. "You already know how you're going to top this, don't you?" When I turn my head to look up into his eyes, he says, "Amazing. What are you doing here?"

"I'm working for a living, Peter. Just as you are, I suspect."

"Please," he says. When I say nothing further, he says, "Well, you certainly have no reason to discuss your personal motivations with me. Do what you want here through the term of our agreement to accomplish our agreed objectives. Ignore obstacles and distractions. I will disembowel anyone who attempts to stop you or slow you down in achieving those objectives. Okay?"

"Okay, Peter."

He looks at me for another moment, turns and walks out the door, leaving it open behind him.

Find the hawk perched on a dead tree limb, tearing gobbets of meat off the rabbit carcass. The meat is tasty. The hunting domain is secure. The hawk's satisfaction, of living in this moment, is total.

Walk back to my office, pick up the phone and call Ron. Hold the receiver to my ear with my left hand, which is awkward. Karen answers, so I tell her to deliver the layouts to the printer as is. She says she'll deliver them this afternoon.

Call the Aces and talk to Penny. Tell her to start shooting Sam's museum preparations, especially the firearms, next week. She tells me they can start shooting Tuesday morning. Ask her if they want some guidance from me on cover shots, but she declines. "We know what you want. If we want help, we'll call."

Call the Galeti Way warehouse to tell Sam Bowles that the Aces will be out Tuesday.

"That's fine," says Sam. "Having Tom and Penny out there doesn't bother me at all. Once I know what they're doing, I just ignore them and keep working."

Liz pokes her head in to say, "The kids and I are gonna pick up a burger. You in?"

"Sure, if you're drivin'."

"Let's go."

We walk out to the Personnel foyer where Samantha and Thomas are waiting. Animated, Liz and the kids chatter as we walk out to her battered Mercedes, telling me about their preparations for the dress rehearsal in Dick Scope's meeting next week.

"When?" I ask.

"Wednesday at ten in the exec conference room," says Liz. "Are you coming, Jill?"

"Yes. How about scheduling the execs and managers, and sending out the announcements?"

"Louise told me to use the Personnel staff. Is that okay with you, Jill?"

"Sure."

"And who is writing the announcement?" asks Liz.

"I am," I tell her from the back seat where I'm sitting with Thomas. Liz is driving and Samantha is sitting in the front passenger seat. "When do you need it?"

"How about tomorrow? That way, we can have the announcement and schedule on everyone's desk or mail slot Monday morning."

"Who has mail slots?"

"Casino and other shift floor managers," says Liz as we pull into the parking lot of a burger shop near the university.

As Liz and Samantha are piling out in front, I pull the door handle.

Thomas touches my left shoulder.

Look at his hand and then at him. He removes his hand. "Jill," he says, "Why haven't you called me? Why are you so cold?"

Look at his pleading face and realize he is beautiful. He is not used to a woman, any woman, ignoring him. "I haven't called you because I haven't thought about you, Thomas but even if I did, I wouldn't call. I'm ignoring you. Okay?"

He looks down, and then suddenly reaches for me. By then, I'm gone. Liz, Samantha and I are halfway through the parking lot when Samantha turns to call out, "Thomas! Are you coming?" Turning to us, she says, "Honestly, he is such a baby. He's probably sulking over your ignoring him, Jill."

Liz laughs. "Well, he's an adult, right? Come on, ladies."

Inside, a tall, athletic brunette is standing at the bar with three other girls, laughing and talking. Her eyes catch mine immediately.

"Burger with everything, no cheese, no fries," I murmur to Samantha, and walk over to the tall, slim beauty. "Hello," I say to her.

"Hi," she says. "I've never seen you in here."

"My first time. Jill Price," I say, extending my hand.

She takes it. "Heather Sorenson, Jill. Nice to meet you."

"Want to get together tomorrow evening? Pick you up here at seven."

She raises her eyebrows, glances around and says, "Okay, Jill. Sure."

"I have a friend. Got a friend who'd like to join us?"

"Is your friend as forward as you?" asks a black-haired beauty standing beside me.

Smiling, I say, "She will change your life."

She laughs. "Who can resist that? Jenny Polito. Count me in."

One of the other two—she has a spread-out look, like she had a kid maybe—says, "Hey, what about us? Let's make it a party."

Look at her and say, "No, but thank you for the offer." Turning away to look at the first two, I say, "Heather, Jenny, see you tomorrow evening."

Mommy asks loudly, "Why not?"

"Not interested," I tell her, standing still and looking into her eyes.

She looks me up and down and asks, "In who? Me?"

"Either of you," I say.

"The four of us are a group," she says. "Not polite at all to invite only two of us."

"I won't invite either of you regardless of what you say," I tell her softly.

"It's very impolite," says Mommy. When I do not respond, Mommy turns and asks, "Gonna let her get away with this, Heather?"

"Oh yeah," says Heather. "I'm going with Jill for sure."

"Me too," says Jenny. "See you tomorrow, Jill. Bring your friend."

Smiling at Heather and Jenny, I turn and walk to the booth. I can hear Mommy beginning to lobby Jenny against meeting me.

"That was quick," says Samantha as I scoot in beside her. "You get a date?"

"Tomorrow night," I tell them. Thomas is sitting beside Liz, facing me. "Thomas, finished sulking yet?" Catch his hand before it leaves the table. "Calm down, boy," I tell him. "I might have Liz here sit on you. She handles my light work."

"What's the matter, Thomas?" asks Liz. "You know there are other fish in the sea."

"Fish is right," he says, "and a cold fish at that."

We laugh briefly at that one. "Ooh, good one, Thomas," says Samantha. "Next step in the process is realization. At this rate, you'll be fully recovered by the time we finish lunch."

He smiles despite himself. "Bunch o' bitches," he mutters.

We laugh again. Pat his hand. "See? You're over it already." Notice that Heather has not taken her eyes off me. Jenny keeps glancing over as well.

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Doc's Place Chat
© 2008, Michel Grover.
Chapter 20 | Part 1
Winter 2010

Lucia :
Mic has posted in the left frame paragraphs from Doc's Place, one of his copyrighted stories. I'm moderating chat here in the right frame. I post every day, but I don't post everything. I have formed a secondary group from which I may also post comments.

Doug :

That was a ballsy move by Jill, bouncing Kerry and Phil out of a slot operations meeting—a meeting they have every right and obligation to attend.

Marcus :
Jill must have been confident that Peter would back her play. I wonder what would have happened if he hadn't backed her. What options did Jill have if he hadn't?

Minnie :
Honestly, I don't know why you play these what-if games, Marcus. You seem like an old woman. What difference does it make if such and such a thing did or didn't happen? We have the record of what happened. Peter did back her play. That's all we need to consider.

Marcus :
It's fine with me if we don't consider my what-if's. I just wonder about such things.

Minnie :
Now you're being passive-aggressive to try to get your way. Why do you wonder about such things, Marcus?

Marcus :
Sometimes events turn out quite differently from what everyone expects when one or two little things change; sometimes they don't. For example, Jill has icy self-assurance and little to lose, so she probably prevails in this situation anyway. On the other hand, Jill is in pain, so her usual situational awareness is weak, so perhaps Kerry and Phil prevail, causing confusion and possible dissension.

Benny :

Point is, Marcus, Peter backs her play just as Jill knows he will. She leverages his presence just as she leverages every situation to her advantage when the odds are in her favor and the timing is right. I'm with Minnie on this.

I'd like to drop this subject since you don't mind and move on to what seems a dangerous moment. Peter asks Jill why, with all her obvious talent, she's working at Doc's Place. In fact, he asks her twice, adding please the second time.

To me, Peter comes dangerously close to realizing that Jill might be working at Doc's Place for reasons other than just working for a living, as she says. Surely, Jill does not want Peter guessing that her actual intent may be other than what she says. He probably won't guess that one reason Jill is working at Doc's Place is to distract him from Pere's efforts to snatch up Ferro's valuable properties in Las Vegas, but he might begin to wonder. Does Jill really want to risk Peter wondering whether she has other intentions?

Raj :

You are probably correct that Jill is taking a dangerous risk, Benny, but knowing Jill, her intention may well be that the risk is not only acceptable but necessary. She may intend to draw Peter as close as possible to wondering if she has ulterior motives without actually doing so.

Jill may believe that once Peter has considered Jill's reasons for working at Doc's Place, he need never do so again. I don't know if such is actually true, but Jill may believe it.

Doug :
You may have something there, Raj. My father is arrogant enough to believe that once he has considered an issue, he never need do so again. I remember once when I was 7yrs old, he offered to read the New Testament aloud with me every evening, taking turns to read each chapter. I tried it for about a week but it was so mind-numbingly boring I told him I wanted to back out of our agreement. After trying to persuade me for several days in several different ways, including bribery, he let me back out but he judged that I was lazy and undisciplined. He still brings that up now and then to explain my choice of lifestyle.

Lucia :
Whether or not that example is illustrative may be open to discussion, but you must agree that you are lazy and undisciplined, Doug.

Doug :
Yeah, so what's your point, Lucia? I'm a good-looking guy in his 20s who makes great money working a few hours a week and scores with LA 10s nearly every night. Why be industrious and regimented? Society rewards my laziness.

Benny :
More to the point of this discussion, Doug, you have given your father no reason to re-consider his initial judgment of you. In contrast, Jill has never given Peter a reason to doubt her.

Raj :

Can you be so sure, Benny? Perhaps we can explain Doug's laziness as efficiency. Besides, carpe diem, right?

More to the point regarding Jill and Peter, Jill may be intentionally building Peter's confidence in her so that he agrees to give her everything she wants—carte blanche, so to speak. In fact, Peter tells her to do what she wants and ignore obstacles. As Peter says, "I will disembowel anyone who attempts to stop you or slow you down." Despite the danger and risk of hinting at her abilities and perhaps her ulterior motives, Jill extracts a powerful endorsement from Peter.

Benny :
Do you consider Jill's hiding her true agenda to be duplicitous or immoral, Raj?

Raj :

Duplicitous, yes but immoral, no. Peter is a lawyer and a business executive, Benny. If he cannot figure out Jill's true intent, that's on him, not Jill. If Peter buys Jill's statement about her job being just a job, then caveat emptor. Jill is a dangerous predator and Pere, her corporation, patterns itself after her—at least her executives do. Peter is an adult and a purported sociopath. He should know better.

Minnie :
You're feeling little compassion for Peter Marriott, Benny?

Benny :
Ordinarily I would but Peter Marriott has utterly taken Jill into his confidence and she is using him, manipulating him. Even so, I'm inclined to agree with Raj, who has pressed his point, calmly, logically and, I think, eloquently.

Doug :
Damn it, Benny. I thought you and Raj were about to get into a pissing match. Are you going to concede his point, just like that?

Benny :
I have conceded Raj his point, Doug. If anyone should be defending your father, it should be you, not me.

Doug :
Just because he is my father does not mean I owe him allegiance. He has criticized me my entire conscious life, which is not whining, just fact. He doesn't think much of my lifestyle and I don't think much of his. If you want to defend him, you have my blessing, Benny, but I won't.

Minnie :

As Raj mentioned, Peter is an adult and can defend himself; however, in this situation, it appears that Jill and her Pere executives will successfully distract him as they raid his company's assets—the valuable commercial real estate in Las Vegas.

Marcus :
This discussion brings up another point. Does Peter bear a fiduciary responsibility for dropping the ball, so to speak, in this situation? For instance, at some future time, could the Ferro heirs or stockholders bring legal action against Peter for letting valuable Las Vegas properties go for a fraction of their value?

Doug :
They could try, Marcus, but it would be a lengthy and expensive process, which would bring little real satisfaction. Besides, we're not discussing corporate malfeasance here. My father trusted someone who distracted him while her associates raided corporate assets under his and other Ferro executives' care. That's not wrongdoing. At worst, the Ferro executives committed a simple blunder that, according to you, Marcus, apparently happens to many executives worldwide to this day.

Raj :
The truth is that Peter's treachery cannot compare with Jill's and Ume's. Beyond that, Ferro's team of lawyers cannot compete with SIA, just as Ferro cannot compete with Pere. In fact, no business or governmental organization in the world can compete with Pere and SIA.

Lupita :

Raj is right. At this point in the story, Pere has a >10yr history of buying undervalued commercial properties and then quickly selling those properties at much higher—sometimes overvalued—prices. SIA intelligence and analysis has a perfect track record. Once SIA begins the operational phase of any project, Pere has already cooked your goose and served it up with sauce.

The Chinese criminal organization that Pere dismantles is a clear example. SIA spends decades infiltrating the organization's recruiting, purchasing and accounting departments. SIA systematically sells numerous properties—always at prices significantly above market value—to that organization through surrogates and third parties. At first, a tenth, then a quarter, then a third and finally, fully a half of all their commercial holdings are worth pennies on the dollar. Ruthless to the end, the organization turns around and slaughters the lieutenants responsible for those purchases. During the last 6yrs, most of their top and middle leaders—all men—are over the age of 70 and becoming quite frail. Through 3 decades, they never realize that their enemies have infiltrated their organization.

The other half of the criminal organization's commercial holdings are extremely old and valuable. Again, SIA has been working quietly and efficiently to prepare for the collapse by setting up trusts to administer the holdings. All of these holdings fall into trusts under Pere's control when the organization—old and rotten to the core—collapses in upon itself. Gradually, Pere arranges for the sale of these holdings to the Chinese government. Pere emerges from the three-decade war victorious, wealthy and smelling like a rose, as the idiom goes.

Amalie :

In quite a different example of Pere's influence, SIA has worked just as quietly but tenaciously over the decades to assure that women receiving Aliversal loans have every opportunity to succeed. Not all do. In fact, barely two-thirds are still in operation. The majority of those still in business, less than 80%, have earned little more than a living for the owner's family—the US equivalent of $50K/yr. Less than 10% of women-owned businesses receiving Aliversal loans have exceeded a million dollars in revenue. In the US, that's less than a quarter of a million firms.

Despite SIA's background work and Aliversal-sponsored training and networking for women employers, business successes have barely outnumbered failures. The situation was gradually improving until 2002; however, the recent economic downturn changed that. The employer survival rate 2002-2006 for all US business was 70%, but only 66% for women-owned business, which matches the national trend. However, between 2002 and 2007, women-owned business increased by 20%, which also matches the US trend.

Suze :
Which states have the highest rate of women-owned firms according to census data, not Aliversal data? How are worldwide growth rates in women-owned firms doing?

Amalie :

Except for detail, the public data match the Aliversal data, Suze. Combined, California, Texas, New York and Florida led in the number of women-owned firms, according to the 2007 US Census Bureau Survey of Business Owners, accounting for 36% of all such businesses.

Women-owned businesses are growing worldwide, both in number and income, albeit slowly and in some regions more than others. Even with Aliversal's best efforts and SIA's constant manipulation, women-owned and minority-owned business growth has been slow.

Despite this slow progress, Aliversal continues investing heavily in small, female-owned businesses. Aliversal also continues to offer merit-based education scholarships for females of all ages, ethnicities and religions. Barring rare exceptions, SIA has protected and supported these women as they have developed their businesses and pursued their educations.

Point is, Pere and Aliversal continue striving to improve the lot of women worldwide. Research organizations all over the globe have begun noticing this gradual trend, but no one appears to have figured out yet that someone is driving this trend over the long term.

Doug :
My guess is that people wouldn't care, even if they did notice. Frankly, it's similar to discovering that teamwork scoring among professional women's basketball teams is consistently higher compared to such scoring among men's teams. People don't give a big rat's ass how women are faring in competition with men because, barring a few rare exceptions, they can't compete well at all.

Suze :
Subtly stated, as always, Doug.